At the Committee meeting it was decided that due to the new lockdown the Bowling green is closed .

The minutes of the Committee meeting for the 8th December is now available to members on the members Page

2021 World Indoor Bowls Championships Mixed Pairs Final and Ladies Final Available on News Page

New Single Match Added............... Watch latest round - Jack Bird V Simon Skelton .......................... Watch the progress of Jack Bird of Borough Bowling Club in the 2021 World Indoor Championships. Watch in the news section

A £500 payment for anyone with a positive Covid test is being considered – here’s why

Anyone who tests positive for Covid-19 in England, and therefore has to self-isolate, could receive a payment of £500.

Ministers are currently considering offering the payment as a way of encouraging more people to get a coronavirus test and stay at home if their results are positive. The proposal has been revealed in a leaked policy document, which has been drawn up by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC).

The payment consideration being extended to everyone that needs to self-isolate comes due to concerns that people cannot afford to stay home from work when they are required to do so.

Currently, only people on low incomes or means-tested benefits are eligible for the one-off payment of £500.

However, this excludes many small business owners, self-employed workers and sole traders.

Environment Secretary George Eustice told Sky News that the Government has always kept the £500 payment “under review,” but that it is important people self-isolate when they are required to.

He said: “We do need people, if they are asked to self-isolate because they have been contacted through our Test and Trace, we do need them to self-isolate.

“And, obviously, we always review the reasons why they might not.”

Environment Secretary George Eustice told BBC Breakfast that it was “quite challenging” for some people to self-isolate if they were in a financially vulnerable situation and needed to carry on going to work.


Mr Eustice said: “We’ve got to consider all sorts of policies in order to make sure that people abide by the rules, are able to abide by the rules and we get the infection rate down.

In regards to the extension of the payment, Mr Eustice told Sky that “No decisions have been made on this.

“But, this is a dynamic, fast-moving situation with the pandemic.

“We are always keeping multiple policies under review.” The new proposal could cost the government £453m a week, equating to £2bn a month.

Popular steps to the beach near Bridlington closed after landslide.

Sewerby Steps, near Bridlington, have been closed after a “substantial” landslide.

East Riding Council said the area is cordoned off and contractors will clear the path as soon as it is safe to do so.

The path is part of a popular walk to Sewerby from Bridlington across the cliffs, with walkers going down the steps to return to Bridlington along the beach. The steps, around 300 yards from Sewerby Hall, were closed last March because of two separate landslips.

Kirsty Salisbury, the council’s General Manager (Coastal), said : “This is all part of the natural erosion process, but the council are looking at ways to minimise the frequency of the steps becoming inaccessible.

“Please do not use these steps until the debris has been removed.”

 

East Coast Festival

Info from Paul Morgan.

East Coast Festival is 9 over subscribed but expect a large number of early entries will not be playing as were entered last year when cancelled.
Can anyone on lists please advise if they are not intending to play in May so others can be confirmed in.
If I don’t hear from players by end of month then will be removed and have to re enter if places available.
If you have already let me know or have only put in this year then OK.
Whitby Festival has 43 entries for August so filling up nicely to max 64.

List of players who have put there names forward.

 

 

Bridlington RNLI receive a new inshore lifeboat.

The new lifeboat is one of the RNLI’s D-Class inshore lifeboats. A highly manoeuvrable craft, able to perform rescues in shallow waters and close to harbour walls and rocks. This enables the volunteer crew to provide lifesaving assistance in areas where the larger all-weather lifeboat is unable to access.

The new lifeboat is funded using money left in the Will of Mr Ernest George Wellings, a supporter and pledger to the RNLI who passed away in March 2017.

Mr Wellings lived in Grantham but was originally from Worthing and he left a share of his residual estate for the provision of a lifeboat.

In recognition of this generous legacy, the new inshore lifeboat D-852 will be officially named the Ernie Wellings. A Station Naming Ceremony will take place at some point in the future, when coronavirus restrictions allow a fitting ceremony to be held.

RNLI Station Mechanic, Chris Brompton described how crucial the new lifeboat will be to Bridlington: ‘Our inshore lifeboat is a key part of our operation here at Bridlington, we launched the D-Class lifeboat a total of 16 times in 2020 and we’re very grateful to have a new one to ensure we can continue to provide this lifesaving coverage. Our volunteer crew would like to extend their thanks to the family of Mr Wellings for this gift in his Will.’

Bridlington’s former inshore lifeboat, the Windsor Spirit, has served the RNLI for over ten years and is now likely to be used as a part of the RNLI’s reserve fleet, or be used in training exercises at the RNLI College in Poole.

The RNLI can only continue to save lives at sea thanks to donations from the public. If you’d like to learn more about how leaving money in your Will can help the charity, please visit https://rnli.org/support-us/give-money/leave-a-gift-in-your-will.

RNLI Media contacts
For more information please contact William Gray, RNLI Volunteer Lifeboat Press Officer: William_Gray@rnli.org.uk or call:07816 134 712.

Key facts about the RNLI
The RNLI charity saves lives at sea. Its volunteers provide a 24-hour search and rescue service around the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland coasts. The RNLI operates over 238 lifeboat stations in the UK and Ireland and, in a normal year, more than 240 lifeguard units on beaches around the UK and Channel Islands. The RNLI is independent of Coastguard and government and depends on voluntary donations and legacies to maintain its rescue service. Since the RNLI was founded in 1824, its lifeboat crews and lifeguards have saved over 142,700 lives.

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Police gives fines to group travelling to Bridlington to attend a party

Humberside Police have fined a group of people travelling from Leeds to attend a party in Bridlington.

It was one of a number of fixed penalty notices issued in the past two weeks for breaching the new coronavirus regulations.

The force’s Assistant Chief Constable Paul Anderson said:

“The first two weeks of 2021 have been one of facing new challenges and new regulations and I am pleased to say that yet again the people of East Yorkshire, Hull, North and North East Lincolnshire have, in the majority, stood up to the challenges of the ‘new normal’ and have been, by and large, adhering to the new restrictions.

“We have however had a number of instances of people flagrantly breaching the regulations. This weekend officers have issued 78 fixed penalty notices (FPNs) in the Force area. We were called to reports of parties in Beverley, Hull and Scunthorpe, where a number of people were found hosting and attending parties. Clearly this is in breach of the current restrictions and is not only a danger to those attending but a risk to spread the virus to their wider communities. *

“In the past two weeks we have also issued a number of fixed penalty notices for people in breach of the new regulations, those include some notable incidents; a party of friends travelling from Leeds to attend a party in Bridlington were issued FPNs, a person who had returned to England from overseas did not self-isolate as per travel restrictions, they were issued with a FPN, a small group of men were issued with FPNs when they were found outside their own area for the purposes of hare coursing in the East Riding of Yorkshire and a man from Liverpool was issued with a FPN when he was found in our area without a reasonable excuse.

“Some people have needed clarification on the distances they can travel to take exercise and we would advise people to read the Government guidance carefully, they state that ‘you should not travel outside your local area, stay local means stay in the village, town or part of the city where you live.’

“Our policing approach has always been to engage with our residents and communities, explaining and encouraging them to follow the guidance, letting people know that what they are doing may put themselves and others at risk.

“The majority of people have been very accepting of this advice, however, this weekend has shown that where necessary we have had to disperse groups that are found in breach of the regulations and enforcement has been necessary. This enforcement is only considered as after all reasonable requests and other options have been tried.

“We continue to take this approach to ensure we protect our communities which will always be our priority, to keep people safe and to protect the National Health Service as they face increased numbers of hospitalised patients.

“Preventing the spread of the virus remains a shared effort and everyone has personal responsibility for following the laws and regulations set out.

“This new coronavirus variant is reported as being highly transmissible and it is crucial that we call do whatever we can to abide by the restrictions, to protect each other.

“As our communities begin to receive their Covid-19 vaccination appointments, there is much hope and anticipation that we can return to normal in the not too distant future. However, now is not a time to relax or step back from our responsibilities, the complete roll out of the vaccine program will take months to complete and we must all continue to help each other and stay at home to stay safe and protect each other and the NHS.”

Author: Karen Liu

 

Mammoth tooth on Brid beach

A schoolboy has discovered a tooth of a woolly mammoth on the beach in Bridlington.

Ten-year-old Jayden Clark found the massive molar on south beach after visiting the sands on a trip with Burlington Junior school.

The tooth was verified by experts at Scarborough, who were by coincidence holding a Fossil Festival in the town.

An expert from Leicester University confirmed it was mammoth tooth with part of the jaw-bone attached and it was estimated to be up to 2.5 million years old.

Jayden said; “It was amazing to get the tooth….I am very proud of it and I want to get it preserved and make it a family heirloom.”

“All the other pupils said it was really good.” added Jayden.

The tooth is though to date from the Pleistocene period, which covered the last Ice Age. It was identified as a juvenile mammoth tooth and part of six sets of teeth.

Mammoths became extinct around 4,000 years ago with many finds reported in Siberia where frozen remains have been discovered on a number of occasions.

Bridlington seafood lorries protest in London against post-Brexit export delays crippling the industry

Three seafood trucks from Bridlington joined a protest in London on Monday over post-Brexit red tape which has stopped them exporting to the EU.

Around 25 trucks including Venture Seafoods, with slogans including “incompetent government destroying shellfish industry”, drove round Parliament Square and the nearby area for several hours on Monday morning.

Exports of live shellfish have been halted since last Wednesday because of the “unworkable” delays facing trucks.

It took one Welsh haulier five days to get to Boulogne, while another carrying a consignment for 10 customers needed 400 pieces of paper. Gary Hodgson, director of Venture Seafoods, said: “Many fishing communities did vote to leave but I don’t think anyone who did anticipated being constrained by documentation and restrictions that have now been thrust upon us.”

Bridlington is Europe’s lobster capital, and the majority of the shellfish landed in the port ends up gracing the tables of restaurants and hotels in France, Spain, Portugal and Italy.

The 310-tonnes landed in 2019 into the port represents 17.5 per cent of the European lobsters landed into England and 9.5 per cent of the global landings for the shellfish.

Mr Hodgson said the Government needed to fully appreciate the severity of the problems facing seafood exporters.

He is not sending any trucks to the Continent at the moment because of the difficulties.

He said: “We strongly feel the system could potentially collapse. We need the Prime Minister to be honest with us and the British public about the problems the seafood industry is facing.

“At the moment it’s early days – it’s only 18 days since we left – but there are big parts of the industry that are stopped at the moment.

“Some areas don’t have access to processing companies like they do in Bridlington and this problem is only going to get worse.

“The system is unworkable and basically all the businesses after that first week just had to stop and take stock of the situation.

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Area of Hull where Covid-19 is raging at alarmingly high rate 

Cases are in free fall across Hull and East Riding, but one area is moving worryingly in the wrong direction.

A map shows coronavirus cases in Hull are continuing to drop as to areas record very low rates but one area stubbornly remains worryingly high.

While hospital admissions and deaths from Covid are still very high, the latest lockdown seems to be helping reduce the number of cases in the city and the East Riding.

Just a couple of days ago ten areas of Hull were recorded very high weekly rates of infection but that has now fallen to just four.

But for the first time in a while two areas are recording weekly rates below 100 per 100,000 of the population.

During the pandemic, Public Health England (PHE) has produced a useful interactive map which displays data showing the rates of coronavirus infection in different areas.

It has opened up a glimpse into the peaks and troughs of infection rates across East Yorkshire.

The map is colour-coded from white – where the virus is being suppressed – through to green where cases are low and then through gradually darker shades of blue as the numbers increase, then to a claret colour and finally to a dark brown.

The map provides the seven-day rolling rates are calculated by dividing the seven day count by the area population and multiplying by 100,000. 

In the East Riding the Bridlington area has the lowest rates. Those areas are:

Bridlington West – a weekly rolling rate of 36.8 per 100,000 of the population with three cases in total which is a drop of seven.
Bridlington North and Bempton – a weekly rolling rate of 70.4 per 100,000 of the population with seven cases in total which is a drop of two.

The weird royal 'job' in Yorkshire once held by Boris Johnson and David Cameron due to weird old law

Boris Johnson, David Cameron and Gerry Adams have been Crown Steward and Bailiff for the Manor of Northstead.

The British constitution is packed with bizarre, antiquated laws and practices which today serve little if any purpose.

They only exist because they haven’t been repealed.

One of the strangest practises concerns Parliament and a former royal estate in Scarborough.

Since 1624 it has been illegal for an MP to resign from the commons. However, from 1701 a workaround began to appear for MPs who were tired of the long and dangerous – but compulsory – journeys to Parliament.

To prevent the monarch interfering with the lawmaking process – such a conflict had decades earlier led to the execution of Charles I – no royal or person who worked for the Crown was permitted to take a seat in Parliament.

This meant you could apply for a royal job to bring your term as an MP to a premature end. MPs would thus intentionally apply for a job as a ‘crown steward and bailiff’ if they’d had enough of politics.

The tradition continues today and MPs wishing to quit can apply to be ‘Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds’ or ‘Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead’. Neither job has existed for centuries but the ‘jobs’ still exist as a workaround to the law of 1624.

This first member to use this mechanism was Christchurch MP George Henry Rose in 1844.

Famous Crown Stewards and Bailiffs of the Manor of Northstead have included current PM Boris Johnson (he quit as Henley MP in 2008 to become Mayor of London), former PM David Cameron and former Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams. Previous Commons Speaker John Bercow currently holds the ‘office’.

It was a royal estate in Scarborough.

The manor comprised a medieval manor house in the parish of Scalby and its surrounding fields and farms. The estate bordered the northern boundary of the ancient borough of Scarborough and followed the line of Peasholm Beck.

The estate became a royal estate during the reign of Richard III (1483-1485) and the steward’s job would have involved managing the estate of behalf of the king, which included collecting rent from tenant farmers.

By the early 17th century the manor house, then occupied by a shepherd, had fallen into disrepair. The remains of the house are now at the bottom of Peasholm Lake, Peasholm Park, north of the town centre. The land remained in royal hands until 1911 when it was bought by the Scarborough Corporation. The Crown, however, still owns the manorial rights to the estate. Manorial rights can include the right to mine, fish, hunt and hold markets on a piece of land.

Peasholm Park is itself today an attractive oriental themed municipal park. A plaque in the park explains its parliamentary significance.

Today a few places in Scarborough bear the Northstead Manor name, such as Northstead Manor Drive, next to Peasholm Park; and nearby Northstead Manor Gardens, where Scarborough Open Air Theatre is.

Bridlington households set to take part in 2021 Census

Households across the Bridlington and district area will soon be asked to take part in Census 2021.

The census is a once-in-a-decade survey that gives us the most accurate estimate of all the people and households in England and Wales.

It has been carried out every decade since 1801, with the exception of 1941.

It will be the first run predominantly online, with households receiving a letter with a unique access code, allowing them to complete the questionnaire on their computers, phones or tablets. Census day will be on March 21, but households across the country will receive letters towards the end of February with online codes allowing them to take part from early March.

The census will include questions about your sex, age, work, health, education, household size and ethnicity.

And, for the first time, there will be a question asking people whether they have served in the armed forces, as well as voluntary questions for those aged 16 and over on sexual orientation and gender identity.

Results will be available within 12 months, although personal records will be locked away for 100 years, kept safe for future generations.

Iain Bell, deputy national statistician at the Office for National Statistics, said: “A successful census will ensure everyone from local government to charities can put services and funding in the places where they are most needed.

Two new Yorkshire Covid-19 vaccination centres to open this month

Around 12,500 coronavirus vaccination doses have been administered across the East Riding since roll outs began in December, while two new Yorkshire vaccination centres are set to open this month.

East Riding Council’s Health, Care and Wellbeing Overview and Scrutiny Committee heard the figure already included some second doses of the jab.

Associate director of Public Health Mike McDermott told the committee having access to the more portable Oxford  vaccine meant more GP surgeries could soon also be administering it.

Councillors also heard today (Tuesday, January 12) that the closest new large vaccination sites to East Yorkshire set to open in the coming weeks would be in Wakefield and York.

The sites are being created to speed up the roll out of vaccines to care home residents, the elderly and other most vulnerable groups.

They also heard residents in 23 East Riding care homes had already been vaccinated while the most elderly and vulnerable to coronavirus remain the priority for the roll out.

Mr McDermott said coronavirus testing in the local area was also set to expand with the upcoming opening of new sites in Bridlington and Goole.

He added the council had helped deal with around 50 outbreaks of the virus in schools, care homes and elsewhere from October to December.

The council officer said: “We’re aiming to do 30,000 coronavirus tests between now and March, focusing on critical workers who need to go into work.

Whiby B. C. Festival 2021

East Coast Festival
May 17th to 21st
Whitby Festival
August 23rd to 27th
Both sponsored by
Starlight Embroidery.
Dependant on BCGBA approval for play but we are carrying on organising in the hope it can.
Maximum 64 entry with 5 different competitions played each day as a stand alone competition.
Singles
Doubles
2 man team
Powerplay singles
Final day singles for festival winner and big prize money.
£50 entry fee for whole week with 4 competitions at £5 entry and final day at £30.
Final day with full entry will be £1920 and each day £320
All approvals will be in place and greens selected when we know who will be open to host.
Whitby Festival will all be at Whitby bc.
East Coast Festival has 60 names down but all will need to confirm
Whitby has 21.
No money to pay until we know if it can go ahead.

 

Spa’s ‘To have and to hold’ offer for happy couples.

Bridlington Spa has launched ‘To Have & To Hold’ – an offer for couples planning to either get married or form a civil partnership in the next two years.

The new scheme could see people have their ceremony now and hold their reception at a later date.

The Bridlington Spa offer is in response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

A spokesman said: “With countless venues affected by the pandemic, this has seen many couples’ prospective plans thrown into the air but Bridlington Spa has rallied to put together an attractive offer to host the special day. “Bridlington Spa’s unique location on the seafront creates a natural backdrop for couples of the beach, sea and sky seen through floor-to-ceiling panoramic windows with breath-taking views across Bridlington Bay, as well as other rooms such as the stunning Edwardian Theatre, Art Deco Royal Hall and Gallery Suite.

“With current Covid-19 restrictions limiting the number of guests able to attend both the ceremony and reception.

“The To Have and To Hold campaign offers couples the chance to have their ceremony now in an intimate setting and hold their reception at a later date when we can all come together in larger numbers.”

General manager of Bridlington Spa, Mark Lonsdale, said: “2020 was such a difficult year for many of us, for lots of different reasons. I’m proud that we can offer an alternative for couples who may have seen their plans ruined by the global pandemic.

“Our stunning setting offers a truly unique and beautiful backdrop to create special memories.” To make this further enticing the venue is offering 20% discount if both the ceremony and reception are held at the Spa and 10% off if only one is held at the historic Bridlington venue.

‘We want to help – let us’ – Community pharmacists call for bigger role in vaccine drive as Health Secretary promises jabs for all adults by autumn

The Government is facing growing calls to utilise all of Yorkshire’s 1,055 community pharmacies to accelerate the delivery of the coronavirus vaccine, as the Health Secretary promised every adult in the country would have the jab by the autumn.

Matt Hancock set the ambitious target yesterday as he said it was likely vaccines would need to be delivered yearly, much like the flu jab.

But pharmacists across the region and the country were left puzzled as to why their expertise had not yet been tapped in to.

Daniel Brash, a community pharmacist and co-director of Mitchells Pharmacy in Horsforth, said: “From my perspective we are quite used to giving vaccines, we have been doing quite a lot of flu jabs and when it was not Covid times we did a lot of travel vaccinations. We are quite experienced in giving vaccinations and I would be interested in ramping it up to administer the Covid vaccine.”


He said: “Our customers are asking all the time, all the time. They are asking lots of questions and asking us ‘if you get some will you please let us know’.”

Mr Hancock has said he was confident of the involvement of 200 pharmacy sites in the jabs programme, which could be expanded further depending on how the rollout progresses.

One of the first pharmacy sites will be Boots in Halifax, with another store in Huddersfield being among the first 200 also.

But Dr Leyla Hannbeck, pharmacist and chief executive of the Association of Independent Multiple Pharmacies, said more could be done to utilise the country’s 11,500 local pharmacies.

She said: “We want to ensure that at this moment of national crisis the Government does not ignore what is a national institution of health experts, right under our noses and accessible without an appointment.

“We want to ensure the Government capitalises on this accessibility, convenience and experience pharmacists provide by offering an open door policy to patients to use the pharmacy of their choice. We ask the Government to engage with us. We want to help – let us.”

 

2021 Greetings from the Captain

Happy new year to you and your family, i hope you have managed to enjoy christmas and new year – Safely.

2020 was a difficult year for everyone, especially for those who have lost partners and family members , also members who are unwell at this time . I am sure , like me , your thoughts and best wishes go out to them.

I know everyone will be thinking ” here we go again ” with the lockdown, but let us try to be positive. We have a vaccine which is being rolled out as i speak which hopefully will bring light to a very long tunnel . 

I would like to think we can start to think to be more positive around spring when we hope to look forward to the start of a bowling season, whether it be in the usual format or not.

Also, it would be nice to think in the summer we can meet at the green for social bowling or just a coffee and a chat.

I look forward to seeing everyone during the year and the clubhouse and green being full of life once more.

Regards :  Irene Hancock ( Club Captain )

 

Flamborough Village Hall committee’s delight after £1,754 award from Co-op fund.

The Flamborough Village Hall management committee has thanked Co-op and it’s shoppers after the venue was awarded £1,754.69 from the retailer’s Local Community Fund.

The hall relies on income from its bookings, fundraising events and awards such as this to help maintain it as a valuable community facility.

A spokesman said: “The current times are challenging for all and that is why, this year more than ever, we appreciated the opportunity to be part of the Co-op’s Local Community Fund.

“We were delighted with the award which has helped with the cost of having the hall’s lovely sprung strip wooden floor sanded and retreated. A massive thank you to everyone who supported us as a local cause and helped to raise money for us while they shopped.”


Visit www.flamboroughvillagehall.weebly.com to find out more about the hall.

 

 

         

2021 Team Selection


Dear Member(s)
LEAGUE CHOICES 2021
The committee has started to plan for next season. This letter concerns your choice of league bowling for 2021.
We would normally place a list on the clubhouse notice board for you to indicate which teams you would be available for in the following season.
This year, because of the constraints imposed by Covid-19, it is likely that many members will not be able to get to the green to do this. As a result this was sent to each member, either by hard copy or email, dependent on whether we know you are online.
To register your choice of league bowling, please notify  me via email or phone. Please remember that if you want to play in either of the doubles leagues, you must enter with a partner, as a pair. Single names cannot be considered.
Please let me know by 20th January  2020 as there is a S. D. B. A. meeting to decide on leagues.
Many thanks.
Yours Sincerely

Dave West
Competition Secretary

National lockdown: Stay at Home (England)

Coronavirus cases are rising rapidly across the country.

Outdoor sports venues, including tennis courts, golf courses and swimming pools, must close. This means all bowling greens should close until restrictions are lifted.

 

Exercise What you can do.

  • Exercise You can continue to exercise alone, with one other person or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area. You should maintain social distancing. See exercising and meeting other people.
  • Exercising and meeting other people You should minimise time spent outside your home. It is against the law to meet socially with family or friends unless they are part of your household or support bubble.
  • You can only leave your home to exercise, and not for the purpose of recreation or leisure (e.g. a picnic or a social meeting).
  • This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

 

You can exercise in a public outdoor place:

  • by yourself
  • with the people you live with
  • with your support bubble (if you are legally permitted to form one)
  • in a childcare bubble where providing childcare
  • or, when on your own, with 1 person from another household Public outdoor places include:
  • parks, beaches, countryside accessible to the public, forests
  • public gardens (whether or not you pay to enter them)
  • the grounds of a heritage site

 

When around other people, stay 2 metres apart from anyone not in your household – meaning the people you live with – or your support bubble. Where this is not possible, stay 1 metre apart with

 

I had a dream the other night
And it’s one I’d like to share
I was at the green with bowl in hand
And all of you were there!

The sun was out, the skies were blue
There was nothing more to ask…..
I know! I know you’re thinking…
But did I have my mask?

 

 

But NO my friends, we had prevailed
We’re at our bowling green,
We’ve lived to bowl another day
SO SOD OFF C-19.

 

Nice thoughts Tony Allen - It would be nice to think we could be there soon